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USM professor Kate Greene is an idiot

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USM professor Kate Greene has requested the issue be put on the faculty senate's agenda.

"We have a non-discrimination policy at USM
that includes sexual orientation and so if we have that policy, I think
to live up to that, then we should not be doing anything to support
organizations that are anti-gay," said Greene.

So...you
aren't tolerant of something for being religious, because they aren't
tolerant toward homosexuals. Isn't that sort of...intolerant?

All in the name of open-mindedness
 
Me thinks Kate Greene might be a little to close to the subject to provide a unbiased opinion.


"Not that there's anything wrong with that". Jerry Seinfeld
 
I had Kate Greene as a professor many years ago. She is in fact an idiot. I never had a worst professor during my time at Southern Miss. I have so many bad Kate Greene stories it's awful.



Are we suppose to boycott every single business that has an officer, board of director, and/or shareholder with conservative political views? or who is a Republican? or who is going to vote for Romney? (That's close to half the country, or more.)



I'm sure that they're at least some conservative Republicans on nearly every corporate sponsor of the Southern Miss. Seriously, dooes anyone think that the officers/directors/shareholders of (fill in the blank company with a relationship with Southern Miss) are ALL pro-gay marriage?
This post was edited on 8/1 9:28 AM by Chartwell
 
I'm awfully confused on this issue. How does the owner of Chic fil A's view on marriage mean that chic fil A shouldn't be on campus? The business isn't anti-gay. They don't turn homosexuals away at the counter. They don't fire or not hire homosexuals. They don't prevent married homosexuals from working for them or buying their food or only deal with anti-homosexual marriage companies.

What I'm saying is, if you personally don't agree with the owner, then you have the right to make a personal decision on whether or not you eat there. Why does that mean you have to try to get your employer to stop doing business with their business? Do you really think you can only do business with those owners, employees, and customers who you agree with 100% of the time? You'd never eat at any restaurant or go to any business or buy any products ever.

Lastly, doesn't the non-discrimination policy at USM in this case have to do with the business, not the personal views of the owner, employees, or customers? I'm sure there are thousands of charities and organizations that every business doesn't support. Does that mean that every business is anti- whatever those charities/organizations are? I guess so. Lets make sure we comb though and see if every company the University does business with supports every charity and non-profit in the world. We can't discriminate on any level or do business with any company that does. If the company doesn't support all, it means that they're anti- whatever they don't support.
 
Guys, this is a sports message board.
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Originally posted by Traveling Eagle:

You don't agree with her, so she's an "idiot". Pot, met Kettle.

Actually, I am tolerating her because I am not trying to have her removed from campus because of her ignorant statement. Although, after typing that out, that sounds like a pretty good idea. I know reserve the right to fulfill your statement about me. I'm not sure intolerant professors are what are truly best for our students. Maybe she should...



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Calling someone an idiot for their thoughts on a public forum is you counting yourself as tolerant? You might want to learn more about love rather than hate from the bible. Pray about it.
 
Originally posted by Traveling Eagle:

Calling someone an idiot for their thoughts on a public forum is you counting yourself as tolerant? You might want to learn more about love rather than hate from the bible. Pray about it.


I think it's her actions of trying to intimidate a business because one doesn't agree with the thoughts of the owner that's at issue here. And the Bible while full of God's love is intolerate toward sin.


I think this is a case of one having the right to their opinion and folks can decide not to do business with that person. But to try and force a university to put a place out of business in unjust in our country. Freedom of speech still is part of our system. But then again the intimidation factor tends to be the ploy that's got us into many missteps in this country.
 
Originally posted by WER4USM (n10ac):

I think it's her actions of trying to intimidate a business because one doesn't agree with the thoughts of the owner that's at issue here...I think this is a case of one having the right to their opinion and folks can decide not to do business with that person. But to try and force a university to put a place out of business in unjust in our country. Freedom of speech still is part of our system.
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While I personally think that people of her kind are just poor, miserable, lost people; she has actually done something very smart for her own selfish reasons.

She has basically put herself on easy street now. With her taking the lead on this issue, she has assured herself that she can stay on faculty at USM until she either wants to leave or retires. No matter how sorry she could be in classes or research or whatever, if the university ever let her go, she will sue and claim it as retaliation for the Chick-fil-a stuff.
 
Originally posted by Traveling Eagle:

You don't agree with her, so she's an "idiot". Pot, met Kettle.
No, she's an idiot because she is violating a man's 1st amendment rights.
 
Originally posted by WER4USM (n10ac):


I think it's her actions of trying to intimidate a business because one doesn't agree with the thoughts of the owner that's at issue here. And the Bible while full of God's love is intolerate toward sin.

I think this is a case of one having the right to their opinion and folks can decide not to do business with that person. But to try and force a university to put a place out of business in unjust in our country. Freedom of speech still is part of our system. But then again the intimidation factor tends to be the ploy that's got us into many missteps in this country.
Well, it looks to me like Dan Cathy and Chick-Fil-A are HUGE winners in all of this. The liberal media and left-wing socialist bigots really stirred the pot by trying to turn this into a huge deal. It seems to have backfired on them. I just went to a CFA here in Denver (which isn't exactly the Bible belt), and the support was amazing. 50-100 cars in line. 500+ people on foot standing everywhere. Pro-life groups with petitions. Veterans with signs like "I didn't fight for socialism", and "freedom tastes like chicken". It was so awesome, it nearly brought tears to my eyes. I haven't felt this much American pride since 9/11.
 
Hey Legendary,


Let us know tomorrow if the media out there dares to say anything (if they even dare do a story) about how peaceful and mannerly the crowds were in the long lines.
 
Originally posted by wooohooomercy:


Hey Legendary,

Let us know tomorrow if the media out there dares to say anything (if they even dare do a story) about how peaceful and mannerly the crowds were in the long lines.
Of course they won't. But you can bet your bottom dollar that they are out there searching high and low for any isolated negative incident that they can take and blow out of proportion.
 
One of the important things that I was not told going to college was the open antagonism toward Christianity ( Seth-remember what one of your Religion class professors at USM said on the first day?). If one has a different viewpoint or belief-fine but don't take advantage of a captive audience.
 
Re: It's really pretty simple.........

If your opinon differs from a liberal, you MUST be punished! You MUST be made to be more "tolerant" LOL...
 
The scarey thing is the kid who has started the online petition. Looking at his facebook page he seems very INTOLERANT of anything christian and non gay. Also the fact that his petition has more than half the sigs you see are from WAY away from the hattiesburg area tells me he doesnt have alot of usm folks (the ones whos opinion should matter) on his side.


Now to Professor Greene. a friend of mine emailed her today and got a blasting in response. Seems the pressure of this story is getting to her and she is claiming she is not a part of this movment and that WDAM sought her out for the story. All who believe this, stand on your head.


My boss did treat the office to chic fil a today by the way lol
 
Re: It's really pretty simple.........

Originally posted by EagleEyedMojo:
If your opinon differs from a liberal, you MUST be punished! You MUST be made to be more "tolerant" LOL...
To be fair you could say the same thing for conservatives. Just look at this thread. Both of these partisan cults are the problem.
 
Re: It's really pretty simple.........


And thus, to be "fair" I suppose, there can be no discernment between good and evil, only the courage to acknowledge the difference is evil.
 
Hope she doesn't have tenure. She was hired to teach not to protest and to incite kids about things that have nothing to do with school. If she had to do it she should have gone to the Chick fil A at the mall and not the one at school. What a nimrod.

This post was edited on 8/1 11:03 PM by eagle ron
 
Re: It's really pretty simple.........

Originally posted by slakfish:
Originally posted by EagleEyedMojo:
If your opinon differs from a liberal, you MUST be punished! You MUST be made to be more "tolerant" LOL...
To be fair you could say the same thing for conservatives. Just look at this thread. Both of these partisan cults are the problem.
What have you seen in this thread? All I've seen is complaining. I haven't seen any conservative starting a petition to threaten someone's livelihood.
 
How wrong you are. They had a big story on the news with lots of video, etc., on the Atlanta networks. But wouldn't that be impossible with the liberal media? Yet I saw it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears.
 
Originally posted by Traveling Eagle:

How wrong you are. They had a big story on the news with lots of video, etc., on the Atlanta networks. But wouldn't that be impossible with the liberal media? Yet I saw it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears.
I have no clue who you're responding to, or what you're even talking about.
 
8.2% unemployment, congress deadlocked on fiscal policy, and our country is focused on the owner of Chick fil a's stance on marriage. Scary times.

This post was edited on 8/2 1:37 PM by eagle39202
 
Originally posted by eagle39202:
8.2% unemployment, congress deadlocked on fiscal policy, and our country is focused on the owner of Chick fil a's stance on marriage. Scary times.

This post was edited on 8/2 1:37 PM by eagle39202
Indeed. It's all we ever do. The followers of the two cults are convinced it's the others fault. And that there is an actual difference between them. There must be, Rush (R Maddow) says it is.
 
Originally posted by slakfish:

Indeed. It's all we ever do. The followers of the two cults are convinced it's the others fault. And that there is an actual difference between them. There must be, Rush (R Maddow) says it is.
What's your solution? Not vote? It's easy to stand on the sideline and hurl childish insults. But until you have a valid solution, and start making a difference, you just sound like the angry little kid on the sideline (the one that never gets picked) that just hurls insults at the big boys that are actually out there fighting to win.
 
I think the point is that these issues are sideshows to more pressing matters and only meant to divide us. When is the last time you've seen anything about any of the wedge social issues on a national ballot or addressed in any meaningful way on a national level?

To follow your sports analogy, the whole mentality that there are two "teams" is precisely the problem. We're all on the same team, we just have different ideas on how the game should be played. And the "big boys" are playing Pop Warner with gay marriage when they should be playing in the Super Bowl over economics.
 
Originally posted by eagle39202:
I think the point is that these issues are sideshows to more pressing matters and only meant to divide us. When is the last time you've seen anything about any of the wedge social issues on a national ballot or addressed in any meaningful way on a national level?

To follow your sports analogy, the whole mentality that there are two "teams" is precisely the problem. We're all on the same team, we just have different ideas on how the game should be played. And the "big boys" are playing Pop Warner with gay marriage when they should be playing in the Super Bowl over economics.
I think that Obama's media really intended to use this social issue as a distraction, and attempt to rally their liberal base. Like you said above, there is nothing good to talk about for Obama. The economy is a disaster. The American people are angry at his inability to do anything to help us. 80% of Americans are angry about Obamacare being rammed down our throats. And then the whole "you didn't build that!" campaign of his that ticked of every business owner in America.

So I think they saw an opportunity to focus Americans onto something else. Unfortunately for them, it blew up in their face. They poked a stick into a hornets nest. Conservative America finally got tired of being bullied, and fought back. They just severely injured Obama's re-election bid by underestimating us.

And I think that there really are two "teams" now. It's sad to say, but the two sides are so far apart on the issues these days, that compromise isn't even possible. The left wants to turn America into a European nanny state, where the government controls everything we do. They have this vision of a utopia where everyone is equal, everyone has the same money, and the same stuff, and the government controls it all. Meanwhile, the right wants to return America to our glory days where freedom reigns, the government gets out of the way, and people prosper on their own merit. They are two completely different ideologies, and I don't see compromise coming any time soon. It's sad to watch.

This post was edited on 8/2 3:44 PM by Legendary Eagle
 
Originally posted by Legendary Eagle:
Originally posted by slakfish:

Indeed. It's all we ever do. The followers of the two cults are convinced it's the others fault. And that there is an actual difference between them. There must be, Rush (R Maddow) says it is.
What's your solution? Not vote? It's easy to stand on the sideline and hurl childish insults. But until you have a valid solution, and start making a difference, you just sound like the angry little kid on the sideline (the one that never gets picked) that just hurls insults at the big boys that are actually out there fighting to win.
Stop playing their game and make them actually address real problems. Hey, you may be on to something. Maybe if we all just said, we're not voting for you fools anymore, so shut the heck up!
 
Originally posted by Legendary Eagle:
Originally posted by eagle39202:
I think the point is that these issues are sideshows to more pressing matters and only meant to divide us. When is the last time you've seen anything about any of the wedge social issues on a national ballot or addressed in any meaningful way on a national level?

To follow your sports analogy, the whole mentality that there are two "teams" is precisely the problem. We're all on the same team, we just have different ideas on how the game should be played. And the "big boys" are playing Pop Warner with gay marriage when they should be playing in the Super Bowl over economics.
I think that Obama's media really intended to use this social issue as a distraction, and attempt to rally their liberal base. Like you said above, there is nothing good to talk about for Obama. The economy is a disaster. The American people are angry at his inability to do anything to help us. 80% of Americans are angry about Obamacare being rammed down our throats. And then the whole "you didn't build that!" campaign of his that ticked of every business owner in America.

So I think they saw an opportunity to focus Americans onto something else. Unfortunately for them, it blew up in their face. They poked a stick into a hornets nest. Conservative America finally got tired of being bullied, and fought back. They just severely injured Obama's re-election bid by underestimating us.

And I think that there really are two "teams" now. It's sad to say, but the two sides are so far apart on the issues these days, that compromise isn't even possible. The left wants to turn America into a European nanny state, where the government controls everything we do. They have this vision of a utopia where everyone is equal, everyone has the same money, and the same stuff, and the government controls it all. Meanwhile, the right wants to return America to our glory days where freedom reigns, the government gets out of the way, and people prosper on their own merit. They are two completely different ideologies, and I don't see compromise coming any time soon. It's sad to watch.

This post was edited on 8/2 3:44 PM by Legendary Eagle
i don't believe they are that far apart at all. Here's the difference between the two:
Democrats, like you said, have a crazy, stupid vision, but they ACTUALLY MEAN it. So, with that in mind they grow government.
Republicans are ostensibly for the things you said, but they DON"T MEAN it and for some unknown reason ($$) they grow government.

i see no evidence of the right getting government out of the way.
 
Originally posted by slakfish:
Stop playing their game and make them actually address real problems.
Sounds nice. If you figure out a way to accomplish it, let me know.
 
Originally posted by slakfish:
i don't believe they are that far apart at all. Here's the difference between the two:
Democrats, like you said, have a crazy, stupid vision, but they ACTUALLY MEAN it. So, with that in mind they grow government.
Republicans are ostensibly for the things you said, but they DON"T MEAN it and for some unknown reason ($$) they grow government.

i see no evidence of the right getting government out of the way.
True conservatives want to shrink government. We had several good conservatives in the primary that wanted to slash government, government spending, and government waste. Unfortunately, the media attacked and vilified them to the point that they were unelectable. And that's why we end up with RHINOs like Bush and Romney. The real problem with American politics is the media. 98% of the media is run by liberal extremists. They run the show, and brainwash the public into doing what they want. We need to get the national media out of politics.
 
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