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Panic,Originally posted by PanicEagle:
I do to Ace ...
Innswood,Originally posted by innswood eagle:
Catfish said "shoot me" LOL.... BTW,, I am someone who does not own a gun, but have been thinking for some time about getting one. What would be something yall would recomend,, i just want something in case someone breaks in and keep in mind I have a 10 and a 13 year old..
My 13 year old went quail hunting down in Milton Fl and bagged a couple, she also did some skeet shooting ,,, my father- in law said she is a natural.
I used to have a .22 rifle when I was a teenager but never got into hunting..
I seriously doubt gun laws have anything to do with those numbers. America has pitifully weak penalties for most crimes compared to a lot of nations, so crime of all types is high. A lot of it also has to do with gangs, culture, etc. How do rates of robbery, rape, etc. in America compare to those countries you mention? And how many of those countries have 300 million citizens?Originally posted by Eagleyed:
The gun laws are a hotly debated topic but the facts are that number of homicides in the USA is about 3 times other countries
For comparison- deaths per hundred thousand by guns excluding suicides.
USA- 3.7
Canada- .76
UK- .04
Every West European country is below 1.0 including Switzerland which allows guns and has more guns per capita in the USA. Laws vary canton to canton in Switzerland but the gun laws are on average slightly more strict than the USA.
It is not a crime issue because the USA has a lower overall crime rate for all crimes combined than UK or Canada. Which leads me to conclude that gun legality factors in at least some. But, there is still Switzerland.
Homicide rates by those countries including any method used to kill someone-
USA- 4.2
Canada- 1.6
U.K.- 1.2
Meaning that if what a lot of people are saying is true that "sick people will find a way to kill people no matter what the gun laws are" then we must have more sick people in the USA than other countries.... or guns allow people to kill people easier leading to a higher homicide rate. Once again I'd like to point out that the USA crime rate is nearly 2/3 that of Canada and the U.K. so there is not a higher crime rate in the United States.
Here's some other countries homicide rates total and gun related deaths total (excluding suicides again) per hundred thousand
gun related total
El Salvador- 50.36 91.6
Jamaica- 47.44 52.2
Mexico- 10.00 22.7
USA again- 3.7 4.2
Japan- .02 .4
(And there's still Switzerland that may end up being the most important country in the gun law debate.)
Figures come from the countries police departments as requested by the UN for their regular conference on crime.
This post was edited on 12/29 7:10 PM by Eagleyed
I fully expect America to see total economic failure sometime in the next few years, thanks to Obama and the Dems outlandish agenda. When that happens, and the dollar becomes worthless, what are you going to do? When bands of thugs are roaming the streets, looting houses, and scavenging for food, how are you going to defend yourself? You liberal anti-gun nuts that aren't armed are going to be seeking out the gun owners that you are demonizing for protection. And a handgun is going to be useless. Only then will you realize the value of AR's.Originally posted by hotrock11:
A rambo gun isn't needed to protect a family....
A regular pistol can EASILY handle the job quickly and efficiently
I can understand though folks who collect guns though....but aks to hunt deer or semi autos to protect your house are outlandish usages of guns to me and there should be something in place to slow down how quick and easy it is to obtain
But oh well....this is just another hub thread...
I did actually mention that in there. The crime rate in the U.S. is roughly 2/3 of that of Western European countries. So your wrong. America has one of the lowest crime rates in the World. The only country that has a large population size with a lower crime rate is Japan. However the gun deaths are as I posted them. Leading me to conclude that the high homicide rate in total and especially for guns in the U.S. is due to them being legal. No country has 300 million people to compare it too but how about this.I seriously doubt gun laws have anything to do with those numbers. America has pitifully weak penalties for most crimes compared to a lot of nations, so crime of all types is high. A lot of it also has to do with gangs, culture, etc. How do rates of robbery, rape, etc. in America compare to those countries you mention? And how many of those countries have 300 million citizens?
I never said I wanted to take guns away from people. I also wouldn't want to repeal the second amendment. It's people bringing emotions not backed up by facts that got to me. Something the liberals do in abundance but happens to Republicans every time the military or the guns are brought up.Originally posted by Legendary Eagle:
America has some of the harshest drug enforcement in the world, yet we have one of, if not THE highest rate of drug abuse. Drug laws don't work. Prohibition didn't work. What makes you think that gun laws will work? It's naive to think that taking away guns from law abiding citizens is going to affect the murder rate. Murders don't exactly care what the law is. The guy that just slaughtered a bunch of firefighters wasn't legally eligible to possess a weapon of any type, yet he still did. Criminalizing guns will just give the scum of America another avenue to get rich, and the law abiding citizens will get raped, robbed, and slaughtered because the criminals will know that they have no weapons to defend themselves.
Case in point, Mexico has very strict gun laws, and they are overrun by criminals that murder without fear. Switzerland has some of the most lenient gun laws, yet they don't even keep statistics on gun crimes because the rate is so low. There is no evidence whatsoever that strengthening gun laws will do anything.