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Does USM fly the Mississippi State flag?

Wrong answer.

Leadership requires courage, courage to stand up AND do the right thing, not swaying in the wind of public opinion. That is what is wrong with this country, no real leadership.

The chicken shit leadership of this state threw the issue to a vote because they knew it would fall along racial lines, just as it did.

You pro flag guys might have a leg to stand if during all this time that the KKK and other hate groups used the rebel flag as their own, had uttered one word to protest it.

And if it's a heritage not hate thing there is a simple solution, put one star in the center of the upper left corner with a circle of stars around it, one for each state of the CSA. There is your heritage.

So I guess we should ban fires, wood, and white sheets too. :rolleyes: The pussification of America continues. Screw freedom.
 
I don't see anything wrong with the flag. It's history, been around since 1894. Why change now?

Wouldn't be surprised at all of you let the people vote, that the Confederate part of the flag would be swapped out with a rainbow! That's just what the world is coming too!
 
Something along the lines of this one would be better
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Oh well, great discussion for the loyalty board. Keep the flag, or change it: it does not matter. As a small business man I want to know what the state and local governments are doing to help us grow our state's economy. Changing the flag may help a small bit to some but not enough to matter. I am not offended by it. And before someone jumps on me for my skin color or southern origins let me say that my great great grandfather died in a saber charge at The Battle Of Winchestet when a confederate cannon took his head. He died preserving the union. His great great grandson is more concerned about economic opportunity than flags. Change it or don't change it but realize that little will change unless we get our economic house in order.
 
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It won't make a shit of a difference either way. You guys do whatever you want to with it.
 
You tell me which law she broke and I'll tell you whether or not I support her actions.
I was pointing out the double standard of selective enforcement of laws by folks on the left. The same folks who want to remove the flag or selectively enfore immigration laws without legislative action generally oppose Kim Davis' actions to selectively enfore marriage laws in Kentucky. They say that she should enfore the rule of law even if it conflicts with her personal views. It's clearly double standard based on ones own ideology--enforce the laws I agree with but not the ones I dont. If the flag should be changed (and one can make a strong argument that it should), it should be done so thru the legislative process, not by edict of the political whims if those in executive positions.
 
I was pointing out the double standard of selective enforcement of laws by folks on the left. The same folks who want to remove the flag or selectively enfore immigration laws without legislative action generally oppose Kim Davis' actions to selectively enfore marriage laws in Kentucky. They say that she should enfore the rule of law even if it conflicts with her personal views. It's clearly double standard based on ones own ideology--enforce the laws I agree with but not the ones I dont. If the flag should be changed (and one can make a strong argument that it should), it should be done so thru the legislative process, not by edict of the political whims if those in executive positions.
Ah, got it... thanks for the clarification. My mistake jumping the gun.
 
I was pointing out the double standard of selective enforcement of laws by folks on the left. The same folks who want to remove the flag or selectively enfore immigration laws without legislative action generally oppose Kim Davis' actions to selectively enfore marriage laws in Kentucky. They say that she should enfore the rule of law even if it conflicts with her personal views. It's clearly double standard based on ones own ideology--enforce the laws I agree with but not the ones I dont. If the flag should be changed (and one can make a strong argument that it should), it should be done so thru the legislative process, not by edict of the political whims if those in executive positions.

Why would you think anyone who supports changing the flag is a lib or democrat? Not that you are the only one doing so.

Am I, as a lifetime Republican required to blindly follow the party line. I believe as a Republican, or Democrat for that matter I am allowed to think for myself. Does belonging to one party or the other require me to be a sheep?
 
Why would you think anyone who supports changing the flag is a lib or democrat? Not that you are the only one doing so.

Am I, as a lifetime Republican required to blindly follow the party line. I believe as a Republican, or Democrat for that matter I am allowed to think for myself. Does belonging to one party or the other require me to be a sheep?

It's okay. You're not the only Democrat that's too ashamed to admit it these days. I don't blame you.
 
It's okay. You're not the only Democrat that's too ashamed to admit it these days. I don't blame you.

Certainly not proud to call myself a Republican these days. They certainly don't represent blue collar middle class working folks like me anymore. And haven't for quite some time. Never mind they can't get crap done. There is good reason Trump and Carson are front runners. Obama, as weak and stupid as he is has run over Republicans time and time again.

Oh well. The flag has come down at Ole Miss. Several white protesters holding signs that read black lives don't matter were escorted away by police. Some arrested for having guns.

USM will take up a similar vote in the coming days. Get your signs ready guys!
 
Certainly not proud to call myself a Republican these days. They certainly don't represent blue collar middle class working folks like me anymore. And haven't for quite some time. Never mind they can't get crap done. There is good reason Trump and Carson are front runners. Obama, as weak and stupid as he is has run over Republicans time and time again.

Oh well. The flag has come down at Ole Miss. Several white protesters holding signs that read black lives don't matter were escorted away by police. Some arrested for having guns.

USM will take up a similar vote in the coming days. Get your signs ready guys!

Thanks for proving me right.
 
Why would you think anyone who supports changing the flag is a lib or democrat? Not that you are the only one doing so.

Am I, as a lifetime Republican required to blindly follow the party line. I believe as a Republican, or Democrat for that matter I am allowed to think for myself. Does belonging to one party or the other require me to be a sheep?
I'm a conservative who actually supports adopting a new flag through the legislative process, not through executive action. This is a hugely important distinction. The point of my post was that many on the left seem to support bypassing legislative action in favor of governing by executive order or selective enforcement of our laws. Whether it's executive amnesty on the national level, sanctuary cities on the city/state level, or a college administrator electing not to fly the state flag adopted by the citizens via their representatives on a local level, these actions boil down to unilateral decisions from an executive branch that bypass laws enacted by legislative bodies. This ultimately undermines system of checks and balances. Too much authority at he executive level = loss of liberty for our citizens.
 
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I'm a conservative Republican (get that out of the way) and to me this is a question of 2 issues. 1. Should MS change the flag. 2. Should public institutions fly the flag.

1. Yes, its time. I'm all for history and not forgetting our past. It is important to understand the events that led us to the state and country we are today. "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it." That being said, flags have changed over time both at a state and national level. Even the Mississippi flag has changed over time. If there is enough concern (and I include myself in that), then it should be changed.

2. Yes, it is the State flag. I don't always agree with my government, but I do support it. I'm apposed to the inappropriate things people do to the National Flag as well. You don't have to like what part of the imagery on the flag once represented, but you still should respect it as the State flag. So public institutions in MS should fly it.

It is too easy to mix these two issues. They are not about the same thing, and should be treated differently. It is not the place of individuals at these State funded institutions to determine if the State flag is appropriate or not. That is the job of our legislature, and ultimately (I can only hope) the citizens of MS.

Anyway, my 2 cents.
 
Yeah, it should down. That vote was back in the 90's, this is a whole new Era now. I agree with all of the institution, that have spoken up about this matter. Bring it down. While some see it as pride others see it as shame. It's pitiful how those in the politics do not have the courage to remove it. Glad the South Carolina governor had the courage to take it. She is not playing politics like Failure Phil. I do believe it has block some companies to the state but not all. Hell, Mississippi will be the last to take it down if it ever comes down. The state is last in just about every category for the wrong reason.
 
Yeah, it should down. That vote was back in the 90's, this is a whole new Era now. I agree with all of the institution, that have spoken up about this matter. Bring it down. While some see it as pride others see it as shame. It's pitiful how those in the politics do not have the courage to remove it. Glad the South Carolina governor had the courage to take it. She is not playing politics like Failure Phil. I do believe it has block some companies to the state but not all. Hell, Mississippi will be the last to take it down if it ever comes down. The state is last in just about every category for the wrong reason.

There is not a better place to raise families than on any small town in Mississippi. I love the small community I am from because race relations are great, everyone knows everybody and loves everybody, Christianity is important to everyone. There is a love for outdoors and kids can be kids and there is something special about Friday nights in each of these small towns. That is just some things and if that is being last and bad, well, give it to me all the time!!
 
Well I agree swag. Moved here in '77 from Tucsan, never thought I would stay but here I am all these years later.

A lot of good here, I can also say that about South Carolina, Indiana, and Cali. But it's the people that makes the difference.

Still there are many issues Mississippi needs to address. Most of these issues have seen little to no progress. The fact we continue to elect the same leadership in spite of that baffles me.
 
Did the state flag come down today? Friend of mine who's an instructor there got an email from the prez about flying USA flag on all poles and looking forward to a flag that unites us. I hope we're both reading too much into this and it's not the case.
 
I am proud of the President for stepping up to the plate and taking the needed action. Now, it's a race between the Bulldogs and the Okra to see who will come in last.
 
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Yes it was taken down today. From his statement, "We have all chosen to work, study, and live in a country in which debates like those around the state flag of Mississippi can take place and ideas can be civilly expressed and advanced." The flaw in his statement is that this issue has been debated and the state voted to keep this flag. If he wants to open the debate back up, that is fine, however, snubbing the winners of previous debates wishes by taking down the flag is doing the opposite of settling these issues civilly. How is it that whenever liberals lose they ignore the will of the people that voted on an issue and decide to do what they want anyway while claiming tolerance, civil debate, and intellectual superiority?
 
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Yes it was taken down today. From his statement, "We have all chosen to work, study, and live in a country in which debates like those around the state flag of Mississippi can take place and ideas can be civilly expressed and advanced." The flaw in his statement is that this issue has been debated and the state voted to keep this flag. If he wants to open the debate back up, that is fine, however, snubbing the winners of previous debates wishes by taking down the flag is doing the opposite of settling these issues civilly. How is it that whenever liberals lose they ignore the will of the people that voted on an issue and decide to do what they want anyway while claiming tolerance, civil debate, and intellectual superiority?
Because they hate democracy........unless votes go their way, then it's pretty cool.
 
My official stance on the state flag. I voted to keep it years ago for one reason. I dont like to be told what to do by outside influences and i didnt like any of the alternatives.
However, as far as the flag flying on campus goes. I have no problem with removing it. No i dont think the confederate flag caused anyone to shoot a church full of people. I dont think it stands for slavery.
But it has been waved for decades at a place i dislike more than any other.

I have always associated the flag with om more than anything. I worked for a company who fired a lady because her son was the first black cheerleader at om and refused to wave it. That was wrong.

Im glad the flag of the ole miss rebels has been removed from the front of the place i dearly love.
 
If a majority of the people of this state vote to change it then change it. If they don't leave it the way it is. This country and this state is ruled by the majority. Simply put, that's a democratic society. If we bow down and change something, anything for the sake of appeasing a small group then when does it stop? What do we give up next to please this group or that group?
Completely agree!! I suppose the American flag is next. Enough is never enough for liberal progresses.
 
Southern Miss has always been a leader not a follower. I'm fine with not flying the state flag it and I'm a very conservative person. Thank goodness we had enough foresight to get rid of the Southerners mascot well before it became a controversy.
 
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