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OT: Palazzo proposes Amendment nullifying health insurance mandate
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I'm really conflicted on this issue. The healthcare provider in me wants more insurance which will
Provide better health for the least healthy state in the union. However, the American in me disagrees with a tax for simply not doing something. I don't see the "skyrocketing" cost as mentioned above, but they could be on their way. I do see the scope of paramedics (and nurses) increasing as their is a bigger push to treat minor ailments at home instead of clogging the ER system even more.
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Provide better health for the least healthy state in the union. However, the American in me disagrees with a tax for simply not doing something. I don't see the "skyrocketing" cost as mentioned above, but they could be on their way. I do see the scope of paramedics (and nurses) increasing as their is a bigger push to treat minor ailments at home instead of clogging the ER system even more.
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I know as a small business owner if something is not done obamacare as it stands right now will further hurt the economy. The penalty tax that iw ill have to pay will basically put me in the negative. We will see many small companies that are in the same boat as me who will have to fold if something is not done.The congressman from south mississippi is atleast trying to do something so lets get behind him!!!
This. Some small business owners are gonna have to cut employees to be able to make it, and others are being forced to cut their employees hours back to below 30 hrs per week.
Except for the fact no one reads that board...besides if you aren't interested then don't click on the topic. Lanny made a similar post, but if he wants to move this one then he can.
Maybe if everyone who likes to post about politics actually went to that board instead of posting that stuff here, the system would work better.
I don't disagree with you, but they don't so if you want to get something read you have to post it here first.
Or maybe if you weren't so embarrassed about supporting this loser of a president, then you wouldn't care.
Obamacare is going to be especially onerous to those businesses which have 50 or more employees.
And if you have fewer than 50, say 45-50 employees, most would decide to refrain from expanding to avoid the Punitive Hit for making the "mistake" of providing too many jobs.
Worse yet, employers with just over 50 employees will now try to drop below 50....some folks, by no fault of their own, will be Let-go as a means to get below that arbitrarily picked threshold..
Which goes to prove if you tax something, you will get less of it.
That's buffoonery in government at it's peak.
Jdh
And if you have fewer than 50, say 45-50 employees, most would decide to refrain from expanding to avoid the Punitive Hit for making the "mistake" of providing too many jobs.
Worse yet, employers with just over 50 employees will now try to drop below 50....some folks, by no fault of their own, will be Let-go as a means to get below that arbitrarily picked threshold..
Which goes to prove if you tax something, you will get less of it.
That's buffoonery in government at it's peak.
Jdh
I generally agree with the idea, but not from that buffoon. and YES, I do know him. And his chief of staff. He voted AGAINST hurricane relief fro the victime of Hurrican Sandy, unless concurrent cuts in the budget were made. He completely blew it with me when he did that. That clown voted AGAINST hurricane relief when he is from the Congressional district which would have been set back 100 years without immediate federal hurricane relief. Without the relief, hundreds, if not thousands, could have lost their lives. We got BILLIONS of dollars in hurricane relief from the US government. HE voted against help for New York, when New Yorkers graciously sent hundreds of truckloads of GIFTS to us after Katrina, and their congressmen didn't say they would not approve relief until budge cuts were made. I helped unload some of those trucks. They even sent firemen to help. When a hurricane hits, the government has to respond immediately. NOT after a budget argument. What would have happened to us if we had not had federal hurricane relief? The entirity of South Mississippi would STILL be a mess. We wouldn't have been able to afford to even haul off all the trash. And this clown votes against hurricane relief. I will no, not ever NEVER support that clown, even if I do happen to agree with him on this issue.
Then aren't you basically doing the same thing he did? He also rectified that situation.
Also, I'm guessing you know his old Chief of Staff, not his current.
This post was edited on 2/20 3:25 PM by Eagle has landed
ObamaCram is going to be a nasty pill for a lot of people to choke down. Medical costs are not going up, the fact is reimbursement is continuing to go down and the cost of insurance to the average consumer is skyrocketing since the law was proposed and then signed.
I am a small business owner and a medical provider at the same time, my personal insurance has gone up close to a thousand a month in the past two years and we have not had any claims other than routine physician. Insurance companies are going to grab as much profit as they can before they start to feel any losses due to accepting people with pre-existing conditions.
Medicare is continuing to decrease its reimbursements to most in the private practice field and is becoming even more difficult to stay in compliance with due to the massive amount of redundant documentation that is required. The stupid Pork U Lus or stimulus, what ever it was called added more clinical markers to the medicare documentation not as a true look at cost effectiveness, but as another way that CMS can deny payments on claims missing the information.
Want to truly reduce the cost of healthcare, it is simple, don't allow contingency lawsuits unless the attorney is liable for counter suit if the case is lost in court or is deemed frivolous by a judge. Allow insurance companies to sell across state lines creating more competition and helping smaller population states like Mississippi. Find a way to get rid of the whole managed care debacle, as all that is a middle man making money for nothing. Finally get each state to enact legislation that does away with silent and rental PPO activities by companies making a profit out of defrauding providers.
The actual profits that most in the medical field make is not much different than it was twenty years ago, the reason that costs have had to go up is all the other entities that are stealing profits from the providers as well as increase cost of insurance coverage for lawsuit protection.
I feel the most sorry for people already on Medicare or soon to be on it, hell in twenty years I am going to find myself on it, if it is still around. The cuts that are coming for Medicare patients are something that can truly be called Draconian and not be a huge line of spin or BS.
I am a small business owner and a medical provider at the same time, my personal insurance has gone up close to a thousand a month in the past two years and we have not had any claims other than routine physician. Insurance companies are going to grab as much profit as they can before they start to feel any losses due to accepting people with pre-existing conditions.
Medicare is continuing to decrease its reimbursements to most in the private practice field and is becoming even more difficult to stay in compliance with due to the massive amount of redundant documentation that is required. The stupid Pork U Lus or stimulus, what ever it was called added more clinical markers to the medicare documentation not as a true look at cost effectiveness, but as another way that CMS can deny payments on claims missing the information.
Want to truly reduce the cost of healthcare, it is simple, don't allow contingency lawsuits unless the attorney is liable for counter suit if the case is lost in court or is deemed frivolous by a judge. Allow insurance companies to sell across state lines creating more competition and helping smaller population states like Mississippi. Find a way to get rid of the whole managed care debacle, as all that is a middle man making money for nothing. Finally get each state to enact legislation that does away with silent and rental PPO activities by companies making a profit out of defrauding providers.
The actual profits that most in the medical field make is not much different than it was twenty years ago, the reason that costs have had to go up is all the other entities that are stealing profits from the providers as well as increase cost of insurance coverage for lawsuit protection.
I feel the most sorry for people already on Medicare or soon to be on it, hell in twenty years I am going to find myself on it, if it is still around. The cuts that are coming for Medicare patients are something that can truly be called Draconian and not be a huge line of spin or BS.
No he didn't. He voted against the pork spending thrown in by Democrats that made up 90% of that bill. The fact that it was even called a "hurricane relief act" is a slap in the face to any American with enough sense to read further than the title of the bill. Read the bill yourself instead of swallowing the lies spewed by left-wing extremist idiots like Rachel Madcow and Chris Matthews.
I don't give Palazzo an A grade, but he voted against the bill because millions of dollars of non hurrican relief pork had been attached to the bil, even though it was titled Hurrican Sandy relief bill.
I have to educate hospitals, clinics, doctors, and patients about Obamacare. Obamacare is already in the process and already started in some areas. I seen where someone posted more nurses and paramedics will be hired, but at a lower wage. Nurses and paramedics will go back to the $12-15hr wage like in the 1980s. Nursing homes, home health, and hospice agencies are taking a deduction in insurance payments, and also more regulations. Medicare started a lot of audits and slowing down the payment process. Home medical and respiratory equipment took a 30% decrease in payment in bigger cities last year, and it will take effect in Jackson area this year. This will be nation wide by 2015. Taxes are put medical equipment that cannot be passsed on to insurances because they are tax exempt, so the medical equipment must absorb it. Hospital payments will be decreased and certian procedures will not be done. Most poor people and children in Mississippi are on medicaid, chips, mscan, or magnolia. Because you have insurance doesnt mean a hospital or clinic will accept it. Alot of clinics will not accept medicaid, Healthsprings, United Healthcare, or Windsor.
I understand that people want to be compassionate to help a few people without insurance.
I understand that people want to be compassionate to help a few people without insurance.
Normally, I am just a lurker on this site and enjoy reading. Today is different. One is certainly entitled to their own opinion but NOT their own facts. Loudmouthpoet, I am curious what inside information you have regarding the horse trading that went on or in your mind's eye did not go on to get non-gulf coast members to vote on post-Katrina measures like the GO-ZONE and basic relief packages? Having worked on cap hill during that time--I can say without a doubt that your information is completely innacurate. It was a daily struggle to get both Rs and Ds to support the efforts of gulf members.
Granted, you are correct--the federal government probably spent around $24B post-Katrina (including NFIP, medicaid, repair of federal buildings, etc.). Money, that was indeed needed. Heck, MS got so much money--we still have hundreds of millions of unobligated funds sitting around. Shhhhhhhh don't tell anyone up in Washington, DC, that information.
But to your point, as I understand it--you are just embarassed. This was a vote for Mississippi to stand with the victims of Sandy and your Congressman/"clown" did not do that. Sure, I get that. Symbolism is very important to us in Mississippi--especially to poets.
However, I can only assume that you did applaud the symbolic gesture of Congressman Palazzo actually going to the devestated area. Something I am guessing no one else from the MS delegation did.
His vote on the House package for relief meant nothing--well to you and many in the media it did. I think, more importantly--he was there. On the ground. Meeting families and helping. When the final package was placed to vote. He voted for it. As he said he would from day one.
We just do not see eye to eye on this. Maybe I don't see the "poetic" justice in this--but I will take action and deads over symbolism from my elected officals--any day.
Granted, you are correct--the federal government probably spent around $24B post-Katrina (including NFIP, medicaid, repair of federal buildings, etc.). Money, that was indeed needed. Heck, MS got so much money--we still have hundreds of millions of unobligated funds sitting around. Shhhhhhhh don't tell anyone up in Washington, DC, that information.
But to your point, as I understand it--you are just embarassed. This was a vote for Mississippi to stand with the victims of Sandy and your Congressman/"clown" did not do that. Sure, I get that. Symbolism is very important to us in Mississippi--especially to poets.
However, I can only assume that you did applaud the symbolic gesture of Congressman Palazzo actually going to the devestated area. Something I am guessing no one else from the MS delegation did.
His vote on the House package for relief meant nothing--well to you and many in the media it did. I think, more importantly--he was there. On the ground. Meeting families and helping. When the final package was placed to vote. He voted for it. As he said he would from day one.
We just do not see eye to eye on this. Maybe I don't see the "poetic" justice in this--but I will take action and deads over symbolism from my elected officals--any day.
CMS is definitely slamming out more audits since the introduction of ObamaCram, money id directly being taken away from what is an already sinking ship of a program. The bad thing about a Medicare Audit, is once you land in that status, no matter what got you there (mostly bogus things such as being a supposed outlier compared to the national average in procedures billed for, HUHH?
Then the wonderful and caring nurses that work for Novitis now, or Cahaba prior to this past October and that can't find work in the clinical arena are more than happy to deny claims for what ever the reason of the day is. Then the wonderful kicker is, once that happens, you can not as a provider bill the patient, you either take the loss or fight the battle with CMS which can take up to a year and go through numerous steps including presenting your case in front of a judge law advocate in order to finally be paid for your services provided.
This is all new games that are being played to try and cut reimbursements to offset monies that are being taken from CMS for ObamaCram.
Then the wonderful and caring nurses that work for Novitis now, or Cahaba prior to this past October and that can't find work in the clinical arena are more than happy to deny claims for what ever the reason of the day is. Then the wonderful kicker is, once that happens, you can not as a provider bill the patient, you either take the loss or fight the battle with CMS which can take up to a year and go through numerous steps including presenting your case in front of a judge law advocate in order to finally be paid for your services provided.
This is all new games that are being played to try and cut reimbursements to offset monies that are being taken from CMS for ObamaCram.
Med Eagle, the problem will not be in cost alone. The problem will be in quality of medical care, quality of medical equipment/instruments and effective drugs. Basically, the government will be able to limit the cost of those things mentioned above which will reduce the incentive to produce one of a kind medical solutions, radically effective drugs and instruments etc....
When you are a Saudi Prince with a life threatening illness, you come to the United States to get cured or extend your quality of life. No more - Was in the Pharmaceutical business and that is what is worrying big pharma...
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When you are a Saudi Prince with a life threatening illness, you come to the United States to get cured or extend your quality of life. No more - Was in the Pharmaceutical business and that is what is worrying big pharma...
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Obama care is just the beginning of financially destroying our country and is aptly named. Socialism is the agenda and as presidents prior to this one warned, it would start with destroying 20% of the economy, namely health care. The plan is in play and as we argue about gun control, other parts of the economy are being manipulated by executive order with the intent to make us like a 2nd level european country. The gun argument is to destroy the Constitution. We were to stay armed to prevent the "Government" from destroying our other rights.
Any give on that, like assult weapons, is un-constitutional. Watch this "global warming" legislation next even though Scientist are claiming "it" is over! (al gore is rich now) Watch the price of gas? If Obama gave a rip about Americans, he would not be stopping drilling and exploration for oil? He will enrich himself and congress and put muslims in places of power for when the economy completely fails.
Any give on that, like assult weapons, is un-constitutional. Watch this "global warming" legislation next even though Scientist are claiming "it" is over! (al gore is rich now) Watch the price of gas? If Obama gave a rip about Americans, he would not be stopping drilling and exploration for oil? He will enrich himself and congress and put muslims in places of power for when the economy completely fails.
wrong...wrong...wrong..... please go read the 9 line bill he voted against. there was no pork, no amendments, nothing but a bill that would allow the federal flood insurance program the money to pay out on claims made by residents in the area affected by sandy.
